Comments on: Microsoft ends GPL saga; WUDT source code released http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/ Not your usual Microsoft enthusiast blog. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: phrostbyte http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5785 phrostbyte Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:58:26 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5785 Hello Rafael, I'm currently working on a fork of WUDT, to add some features. Currently hosted at : http://github.com/phrostbyte/Linux-USB-DVD-Download-Tool I'm very interested in your patch. Is there anywhere you can post it such that I can make available in the source tree? Thank you! Hello Rafael,

I’m currently working on a fork of WUDT, to add some features. Currently hosted at : http://github.com/phrostbyte/Linux-USB-DVD-Download-Tool

I’m very interested in your patch. Is there anywhere you can post it such that I can make available in the source tree?

Thank you!

]]> By: Max http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5700 Max Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:15:33 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5700 I tried using your tool on a Windows 2003 Server iso from MSDN, and I still get the "invalid iso" error. Did they change something? I tried using your tool on a Windows 2003 Server iso from MSDN, and I still get the “invalid iso” error. Did they change something?

]]> By: Gadget Sleuth http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5659 Gadget Sleuth Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:19:59 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5659 Nice to see that MS is being more receptive to outside developers ideas; as any OS follower knows, open source/community source is the future of most OSes down the road. Nice to see that MS is being more receptive to outside developers ideas; as any OS follower knows, open source/community source is the future of most OSes down the road.

]]> By: Simon Forsman http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5651 Simon Forsman Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:12:19 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5651 Vincent, no, GPL licensed software is not required to be available for free, the sourcecode however must be available at no additional cost to those who recieved or bought a binary and those who recieve or buy the software get the right to make and sell or give away their own copies (modified or not) under the GPL aswell (Which tends to push the price down to zero). Bundling GPL software with non GPL software is commonly done by most commercial Linux distributions and is considered perfectly acceptable as long as no linking is done. (There are also exceptions in the GPL to allow GPL licensed software to link with non GPL system libraries (Since it would be impossible to write any useful GPL software for a proprietary OS otherwise). I'm able to download the tool and the code without any account or without owning Win7, the only current flaw is that the download page states that i have to agree with the GPL in order to download the software (Its not necessary, Its perfectly fine to recieve and use GPL licensed software without accepting the license (see point 5 of the GPLv2 or point 9 of v3). (The v3 is a bit more clear and also includes exceptions for ancillary propagation using P2P (So that you can download using for example bittorrent without first accepting the license)) Vincent, no, GPL licensed software is not required to be available for free, the sourcecode however must be available at no additional cost to those who recieved or bought a binary and those who recieve or buy the software get the right to make and sell or give away their own copies (modified or not) under the GPL aswell (Which tends to push the price down to zero).

Bundling GPL software with non GPL software is commonly done by most commercial Linux distributions and is considered perfectly acceptable as long as no linking is done. (There are also exceptions in the GPL to allow GPL licensed software to link with non GPL system libraries (Since it would be impossible to write any useful GPL software for a proprietary OS otherwise).

I’m able to download the tool and the code without any account or without owning Win7, the only current flaw is that the download page states that i have to agree with the GPL in order to download the software (Its not necessary, Its perfectly fine to recieve and use GPL licensed software without accepting the license (see point 5 of the GPLv2 or point 9 of v3). (The v3 is a bit more clear and also includes exceptions for ancillary propagation using P2P (So that you can download using for example bittorrent without first accepting the license))

]]> By: Austin Wise http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5640 Austin Wise Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:15:02 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5640 Nice attempt at a troll Vincent. I find it a little odd that the author of ImageMaster would pull his code over this. You would think he would be excited about people checking out his program. He could give it a cool motto like "so good Microsoft <strike>stole</strike> licensed it". Nice attempt at a troll Vincent.

I find it a little odd that the author of ImageMaster would pull his code over this. You would think he would be excited about people checking out his program. He could give it a cool motto like “so good Microsoft stole licensed it”.

]]> By: Lidenskap: Teknologi » Windows 7: 30 tips og hvordan installere fra minnepenn http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5639 Lidenskap: Teknologi » Windows 7: 30 tips og hvordan installere fra minnepenn Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:54:34 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5639 [...] Oppdatert: WUDT er tilgjengelig som åpen kildekode på wudt.codeplex.com (Within Windows) [...] [...] Oppdatert: WUDT er tilgjengelig som åpen kildekode på wudt.codeplex.com (Within Windows) [...]

]]> By: Vincent J. Anzilotti http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5636 Vincent J. Anzilotti Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:45:17 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5636 Of course, Microsoft attempts to blame free open source code, under GPL v2, for their requirement of needing to install Microsoft Dot Net Framework v2 and the Image Mastering API (application programming interface) before installing WDUT! --> Why didn't Microsoft develop it's own software solution to install their own software product? Microsoft originally released WUDT in October, which took until December the 10th to release WDUT under GPL v2. But, "Before you run the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download tool, make sure that you have already purchased Windows 7 ISO download from Microsoft Store" so that means the FREE GPL v2 open source software isn't available without FIRST making a purchase? And that is why everyone has been direct linking the tool! "If you have purchased Windows 7 but have not yet downloaded the ISO file, you can download the file from your Microsoft Store Account." which the Microsoft Store claims! Isn't FREE open source software, under the GPL v2 license agreement terms, suppose to be available freely? In my opinion, Microsoft has bundled the free open source intellectual property with their proprietary! Nobody can gain access to the Microsoft Store without first becoming a member of Windows Live ID! So that's another Microsoft requirement, to gain access to the FREE open source code intellectual property under the GPL v2 license agreement that everyone MUST obtain and join Microsoft as a Windows Live ID to be eligible? Now, we see, what it means to be FREE, under Microsoft's terms! Of course, Microsoft attempts to blame free open source code, under GPL v2, for their requirement of needing to install Microsoft Dot Net Framework v2 and the Image Mastering API (application programming interface) before installing WDUT!

–> Why didn’t Microsoft develop it’s own software solution to install their own software product?

Microsoft originally released WUDT in October, which took until December the 10th to release WDUT under GPL v2.

But, “Before you run the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download tool, make sure that you have already purchased Windows 7 ISO download from Microsoft Store” so that means the FREE GPL v2 open source software isn’t available without FIRST making a purchase? And that is why everyone has been direct linking the tool!

“If you have purchased Windows 7 but have not yet downloaded the ISO file, you can download the file from your Microsoft Store Account.” which the Microsoft Store claims!

Isn’t FREE open source software, under the GPL v2 license agreement terms, suppose to be available freely? In my opinion, Microsoft has bundled the free open source intellectual property with their proprietary! Nobody can gain access to the Microsoft Store without first becoming a member of Windows Live ID!

So that’s another Microsoft requirement, to gain access to the FREE open source code intellectual property under the GPL v2 license agreement that everyone MUST obtain and join Microsoft as a Windows Live ID to be eligible? Now, we see, what it means to be FREE, under Microsoft’s terms!

]]> By: Bradley M. Kuhn http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5629 Bradley M. Kuhn Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:04:01 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5629 Congratulations to you, Rafael. Thanks for your work on this. I've also <a href="http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2009/12/10/microsoft-gpl-enforcement.html" rel="nofollow">posted a public congratulations to you in my blog</a>. Congratulations to you, Rafael. Thanks for your work on this. I’ve also posted a public congratulations to you in my blog.

]]> By: Felipe Zorzo http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5628 Felipe Zorzo Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:38:33 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5628 @Balnites, download IMAPI <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=b5f726f1-4ace-455d-bad7-abc4dd2f147b" rel="nofollow">here</a> @Balnites, download IMAPI here

]]> By: Guilherme C. http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5627 Guilherme C. Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:36:09 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5627 Here it is the link Balnites, http://bit.ly/DD8AP Hope I've helped you, ;D Here it is the link Balnites, http://bit.ly/DD8AP

Hope I’ve helped you, ;D

]]> By: Balnites http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5624 Balnites Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:27:54 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5624 When I tried to install it, I got this msg: "This application requires the Image Mastering API v2. Please install the Image Mastering API then run this installer again." but the Image Mastering API v2 is not on the download site. When I tried to install it, I got this msg:

“This application requires the Image Mastering API v2.
Please install the Image Mastering API then run this installer again.”

but the Image Mastering API v2 is not on the download site.

]]> By: Ferramenta de Download USB/DVD volta a ser disponibilizada » WinAjuda http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5618 Ferramenta de Download USB/DVD volta a ser disponibilizada » WinAjuda Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:41:00 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5618 [...] Within Windows. Tags: codeplex, gpl v2, imagemaster, microsoft, windows 7 usb/dvd download tool Notificar [...] [...] Within Windows. Tags: codeplex, gpl v2, imagemaster, microsoft, windows 7 usb/dvd download tool Notificar [...]

]]> By: Brandon http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5616 Brandon Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:11:58 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5616 Well, I hope they accept your patch. This tool is quite useful. Well, I hope they accept your patch. This tool is quite useful.

]]> By: Microsoft finally posts the stolen source @ AskWoody.com http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5615 Microsoft finally posts the stolen source @ AskWoody.com Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:18:56 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5615 [...] comes from Rafael Rivera, who first noticed the transgression, that – one month later – [...] [...] comes from Rafael Rivera, who first noticed the transgression, that – one month later – [...]

]]> By: Rafael http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5613 Rafael Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:46:18 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5613 You can use the tool in the interim, otherwise TBD. You can use the tool in the interim, otherwise TBD.

]]> By: Microsoft Ends GPL Saga and Posts WUDT Source Code | The Software Nook http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5611 Microsoft Ends GPL Saga and Posts WUDT Source Code | The Software Nook Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:01:45 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5611 [...] Rafael: Back in November, I wrote about Microsoft lifting GPL licensed code for use in a Microsoft Store [...] [...] Rafael: Back in November, I wrote about Microsoft lifting GPL licensed code for use in a Microsoft Store [...]

]]> By: Interframe http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/12/09/microsoft-ends-gpl-saga-wudt-source-code-released/#comment-5610 Interframe Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:02:04 +0000 http://www.withinwindows.com/?p=972#comment-5610 When exactly will your patch to support imgburn-created ISOs be released? When exactly will your patch to support imgburn-created ISOs be released?

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