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	<title>Comments on: Offbeat: Buy.com and Nokia hate the environment, apparently</title>
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	<description>Not your usual Microsoft enthusiast blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Schneider</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3131</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it plenty of junk to get my wood stove going in the morning, since the newspaper isn&#039;t worth getting anymore. Greenpeace has been a joke since the founder left it, kind of like the Sierra Club and other idiots who will have us spending billions to bring wind and solar power up to 2% from the 1% its at now. Just build nukes and give us real power. Oops sorry off topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it plenty of junk to get my wood stove going in the morning, since the newspaper isn&#8217;t worth getting anymore. Greenpeace has been a joke since the founder left it, kind of like the Sierra Club and other idiots who will have us spending billions to bring wind and solar power up to 2% from the 1% its at now. Just build nukes and give us real power. Oops sorry off topic.</p>
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		<title>By: pizzaboy192</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3100</link>
		<dc:creator>pizzaboy192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[offtopic]
@rafael: Did you compile a new set of auto elevate lists for the latest sets of windows 7 builds (7048, 7057, 7068, 7077)?</description>
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@rafael: Did you compile a new set of auto elevate lists for the latest sets of windows 7 builds (7048, 7057, 7068, 7077)?</p>
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		<title>By: Vinski</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3097</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the packing, Nokia is still the most green electronic manufacturer in the world:
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the packing, Nokia is still the most green electronic manufacturer in the world:<br />
<a href="http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-up" rel="nofollow">http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/how-the-companies-line-up</a></p>
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		<title>By: pizzaboy192</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3092</link>
		<dc:creator>pizzaboy192</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I build systems for people, and usually purchase everything from newegg... I usually end up taking the box for the case, and filling it with packing peanuts, then when that box is full, you can always take an old bedsheet, and stitch up 3 sides, and fill it with peanuts from 3 or 4 systems, and make a giant beanbag for you to relax on while you are &quot;preparing yourself for the coming times when defending one&#039;s self from zombies will be top priority&quot; (Left 4 Dead)

I am glad for all the boxes though... I get to move end of the school year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I build systems for people, and usually purchase everything from newegg&#8230; I usually end up taking the box for the case, and filling it with packing peanuts, then when that box is full, you can always take an old bedsheet, and stitch up 3 sides, and fill it with peanuts from 3 or 4 systems, and make a giant beanbag for you to relax on while you are &#8220;preparing yourself for the coming times when defending one&#8217;s self from zombies will be top priority&#8221; (Left 4 Dead)</p>
<p>I am glad for all the boxes though&#8230; I get to move end of the school year!</p>
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		<title>By: procyon</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3085</link>
		<dc:creator>procyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lame post... The package comes on whatever they think should come. Unless you wanted to get a broken piece of pastik with no bluethooth set...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lame post&#8230; The package comes on whatever they think should come. Unless you wanted to get a broken piece of pastik with no bluethooth set&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Etienne</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3082</link>
		<dc:creator>Etienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the Nokia part, that&#039;s a habit a lot of companies has: just look at your Kellogg&#039;s cereal box the content will often take half the size of the box, or look at all other food stuff (Chips, tacos and so on): the bigger the box or package is, hopefully more potential customers will see the product.
And that&#039;s it for a lot of produts, look for example the pens or pencils: a huge package for something relatively small in fact.

As for the delivery package, it is possible too that the retailer don&#039;t want any problem with the shipping, and so they think that the more the safer.

But it is true that both (well, in fact all of us), we should do an effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the Nokia part, that&#8217;s a habit a lot of companies has: just look at your Kellogg&#8217;s cereal box the content will often take half the size of the box, or look at all other food stuff (Chips, tacos and so on): the bigger the box or package is, hopefully more potential customers will see the product.<br />
And that&#8217;s it for a lot of produts, look for example the pens or pencils: a huge package for something relatively small in fact.</p>
<p>As for the delivery package, it is possible too that the retailer don&#8217;t want any problem with the shipping, and so they think that the more the safer.</p>
<p>But it is true that both (well, in fact all of us), we should do an effort.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Doctor</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3081</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hippie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hippie.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Trapp</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3066</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Trapp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Buy.com and Nokia have just not drank the Enviro Koolaid.   Maybe they refuse to submit to the new religion just as I do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Buy.com and Nokia have just not drank the Enviro Koolaid.   Maybe they refuse to submit to the new religion just as I do not.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3064</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, at least it was well protected in transit.  And we don&#039;t know that it costs them more to use the bigger box.  Maybe they ultimately save money by not stocking a lot of different sizes of boxes?  Anyway, you did the right thing.  You recycled it.  And you gave us an entertaining post.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, at least it was well protected in transit.  And we don&#8217;t know that it costs them more to use the bigger box.  Maybe they ultimately save money by not stocking a lot of different sizes of boxes?  Anyway, you did the right thing.  You recycled it.  And you gave us an entertaining post.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: John McNamara</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3060</link>
		<dc:creator>John McNamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is indicative of not just Buy.com but MOST sites that do Internet sales and shipping. New Egg sent memory modules for my laptop in a box that could ship shoes. These companies moan about losing money but they piss it away with shipping simple things in oversized boxes. Maybe it is just me but I think they could certainly THINK about how they do this part of their business.

:*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is indicative of not just Buy.com but MOST sites that do Internet sales and shipping. New Egg sent memory modules for my laptop in a box that could ship shoes. These companies moan about losing money but they piss it away with shipping simple things in oversized boxes. Maybe it is just me but I think they could certainly THINK about how they do this part of their business.</p>
<p>:*)</p>
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		<title>By: vb</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3058</link>
		<dc:creator>vb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least you didn&#039;t order from NewEgg or you would have a crapton of packing peanuts that you wouldn&#039;t know what to do with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least you didn&#8217;t order from NewEgg or you would have a crapton of packing peanuts that you wouldn&#8217;t know what to do with.</p>
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		<title>By: Zweitze</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3056</link>
		<dc:creator>Zweitze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think this is bad, stay away from HP. Sometimes they need a pallet to send their goods:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/23/enormouse/
More HP packaging from the same site:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/18/hp_packaging/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/21/more_hp_packaging/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think this is bad, stay away from HP. Sometimes they need a pallet to send their goods:<br />
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/23/enormouse/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/23/enormouse/</a><br />
More HP packaging from the same site:<br />
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/18/hp_packaging/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/18/hp_packaging/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/21/more_hp_packaging/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/11/21/more_hp_packaging/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Crave</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3054</link>
		<dc:creator>Crave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get my purchases like this all the time from several online retailers. I just throw it all in the recycling bin and hope I did my part to save this filthy world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get my purchases like this all the time from several online retailers. I just throw it all in the recycling bin and hope I did my part to save this filthy world.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryant</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/04/06/buycom-and-nokia-hate-the-environment-apparently/comment-page-1/#comment-3052</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/submits to the consumerist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/submits to the consumerist</p>
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