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	<title>Comments on: WHS + Power Pack 1 + HP add-ons = Unusable server</title>
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		<title>By: Roy84</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4851</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The acid keeps deteriotating the fabric. ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The acid keeps deteriotating the fabric. ,</p>
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		<title>By: Kelvin84</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-4840</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelvin84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, many people see this as only a temporary solution, as the surface-based facilities known as &#039;Arteria&#039; which power these Cradles produce more Kojima pollution into the atmosphere. ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, many people see this as only a temporary solution, as the surface-based facilities known as &#8216;Arteria&#8217; which power these Cradles produce more Kojima pollution into the atmosphere. ,</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Eldridge</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-381</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Eldridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I don&#039;t think this has anything to do with Power Pack 1.  I installed the PVConnect and McAfee as they showed up as available ad ins on my server one day.   McAfee was a serious pain in the ass and still isn&#039;t working properly - Some components won&#039;t work.  PVConnect has slowed my console to a crawl.

So I decided to install Power Pack 1 (once I learned of it) hoping that this would solve all my problems....

Well no... It hasn&#039;t.  PVConnect is still a pig.  McAfee is still a steaming pile of crap.  And my WHS is about as fast as a Commodore 64.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I don&#8217;t think this has anything to do with Power Pack 1.  I installed the PVConnect and McAfee as they showed up as available ad ins on my server one day.   McAfee was a serious pain in the ass and still isn&#8217;t working properly &#8211; Some components won&#8217;t work.  PVConnect has slowed my console to a crawl.</p>
<p>So I decided to install Power Pack 1 (once I learned of it) hoping that this would solve all my problems&#8230;.</p>
<p>Well no&#8230; It hasn&#8217;t.  PVConnect is still a pig.  McAfee is still a steaming pile of crap.  And my WHS is about as fast as a Commodore 64.</p>
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		<title>By: surilamin</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>surilamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, PE (Paul Error) I do not think I will ever forget that.  I love Paul dearly and read his site everyday, but I work with a bunch of PEs (Professional Engineers), and I found it funny. :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, PE (Paul Error) I do not think I will ever forget that.  I love Paul dearly and read his site everyday, but I work with a bunch of PEs (Professional Engineers), and I found it funny. :p</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Russell Nicol: First, I apologize your comment got randomly selected to be screened. Second, thanks for the heads up. I haven&#039;t tried any more add-ons, but if I decide to go down that road, I&#039;ll have this in my back pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Russell Nicol: First, I apologize your comment got randomly selected to be screened. Second, thanks for the heads up. I haven&#8217;t tried any more add-ons, but if I decide to go down that road, I&#8217;ll have this in my back pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@hvacengi: I have installed the update to Windows Desktop Search, but have not noticed any performance issues since. This is probably because the indexer only consumes idle cycles, as opposed to this PVConnect software...

@MrT: Agreed.

@Colin: Correct, I agree. I have installed Power Pack 1 and don&#039;t regret it. It&#039;ll be pushed down via Windows Update in August too. The blog post was merely to highlight HP&#039;s goofy decision to bundle software that clearly doesn&#039;t work with their own hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@hvacengi: I have installed the update to Windows Desktop Search, but have not noticed any performance issues since. This is probably because the indexer only consumes idle cycles, as opposed to this PVConnect software&#8230;</p>
<p>@MrT: Agreed.</p>
<p>@Colin: Correct, I agree. I have installed Power Pack 1 and don&#8217;t regret it. It&#8217;ll be pushed down via Windows Update in August too. The blog post was merely to highlight HP&#8217;s goofy decision to bundle software that clearly doesn&#8217;t work with their own hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Belton</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-364</link>
		<dc:creator>Belton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zanzee: Thanks for the obligatory Linux remark!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zanzee: Thanks for the obligatory Linux remark!</p>
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		<title>By: Zanzee</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>Zanzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or format it throw a simple easy to use distro of linux on it like ubuntu and be done with it. Even with 512 ram and an old AMD 2.6ghz barton I&#039;ve yet to have any issues. Once samba/apache/mediatomb/clam AV are setup bobs your uncle and the only maintenance you&#039;ll ever do is cleaning the fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or format it throw a simple easy to use distro of linux on it like ubuntu and be done with it. Even with 512 ram and an old AMD 2.6ghz barton I&#8217;ve yet to have any issues. Once samba/apache/mediatomb/clam AV are setup bobs your uncle and the only maintenance you&#8217;ll ever do is cleaning the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are playing with fire, if you rely on the server for important data, and you aren&#039;t going to install the Power Pack.
Not only does it include the update for the possible corruption bug, but it also has general speed-up optimisations, making the server a little more &#039;snappy&#039;.
The two add-ins, are an HP abomination, and nothing to do with MS, in fact, they are even installed separately at present.

Colin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are playing with fire, if you rely on the server for important data, and you aren&#8217;t going to install the Power Pack.<br />
Not only does it include the update for the possible corruption bug, but it also has general speed-up optimisations, making the server a little more &#8217;snappy&#8217;.<br />
The two add-ins, are an HP abomination, and nothing to do with MS, in fact, they are even installed separately at present.</p>
<p>Colin</p>
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		<title>By: MrT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EX475/EX470 *needs* to be upgraded to 2GB ram. I have no idea why they shipped it with only 512mb, that&#039;s a corner that they shouldn&#039;t have cut. The upgrade isn&#039;t too hard to do. It&#039;s still sluggish at times, even with the added ram, but certainly a lot better than it would otherwise be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EX475/EX470 *needs* to be upgraded to 2GB ram. I have no idea why they shipped it with only 512mb, that&#8217;s a corner that they shouldn&#8217;t have cut. The upgrade isn&#8217;t too hard to do. It&#8217;s still sluggish at times, even with the added ram, but certainly a lot better than it would otherwise be.</p>
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		<title>By: hvacengi</title>
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		<dc:creator>hvacengi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you installed the update to windows search 4?  During the PP1 beta I had the same issues with the console and with other apps when I would use romote desktop.  I found that my system was being thrashed by the indexer. I updated from MS&#039;s download center and every thing promptly worked better.  It is all still running well for me after the rtm updates, but I did pass on the McAfee (Avast family pack for me).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you installed the update to windows search 4?  During the PP1 beta I had the same issues with the console and with other apps when I would use romote desktop.  I found that my system was being thrashed by the indexer. I updated from MS&#8217;s download center and every thing promptly worked better.  It is all still running well for me after the rtm updates, but I did pass on the McAfee (Avast family pack for me).</p>
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		<title>By: JL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would be HP --not MS--that added the bloatware</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would be HP &#8211;not MS&#8211;that added the bloatware</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Nicol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell Nicol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I experienced similar problems, and raised a discussion thread on the Microsoft Home Server Forum:
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3666844&amp;SiteID=50

What I concluded though was that some of the existing add-ins I had installed were not 100% compatable with PP1, so having uninstalled the HP upgrades, PP1 the all the add-ins, I then installed PP1, downloaded and installed the latest versions of my existing plugins then finally the HP upgrades. Once the PVConnect indexing had completed everything was running fine.

The only other issue I came across was with installing &amp; un-installing add-ins which became extremely slow, generally taking an hour to install or un-install any add-in, the solution to this I found was to install the Microsoft WHS Toolkit and delete all the Home Server log files, which fixed it.

Russell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I experienced similar problems, and raised a discussion thread on the Microsoft Home Server Forum:<br />
<a href="http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3666844&amp;SiteID=50" rel="nofollow">http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=3666844&amp;SiteID=50</a></p>
<p>What I concluded though was that some of the existing add-ins I had installed were not 100% compatable with PP1, so having uninstalled the HP upgrades, PP1 the all the add-ins, I then installed PP1, downloaded and installed the latest versions of my existing plugins then finally the HP upgrades. Once the PVConnect indexing had completed everything was running fine.</p>
<p>The only other issue I came across was with installing &amp; un-installing add-ins which became extremely slow, generally taking an hour to install or un-install any add-in, the solution to this I found was to install the Microsoft WHS Toolkit and delete all the Home Server log files, which fixed it.</p>
<p>Russell</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Glatz</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/07/27/whs-power-pack-1-add-ons-unusable-server/comment-page-1/#comment-357</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Glatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used the MS Home Server since being a tester in the early days.  I now use it effectively in my printing business and feel that it was designed for my firm only.  Why is it always required that when we have a good thing that MS has to add such things as McAfee’s Total Protection Service or the PacketVideo’s PVConnect Media Server when all we want is a effective backup system that does not miss a beat.  Let&#039;s get rid of the bloatware.  Although we have 1GB RAM in addition to the 7TB we ave turned our upgrade option off.  Let&#039;s see what others say before we install the Power (less) Pack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used the MS Home Server since being a tester in the early days.  I now use it effectively in my printing business and feel that it was designed for my firm only.  Why is it always required that when we have a good thing that MS has to add such things as McAfee’s Total Protection Service or the PacketVideo’s PVConnect Media Server when all we want is a effective backup system that does not miss a beat.  Let&#8217;s get rid of the bloatware.  Although we have 1GB RAM in addition to the 7TB we ave turned our upgrade option off.  Let&#8217;s see what others say before we install the Power (less) Pack</p>
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