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	<title>Comments on: Newer drivers ARE better. Go figure.</title>
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		<title>By: Wilko</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-6140</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know if this has been resolved or if there is a fix to get this working? I&#039;ve been having the same problem and I&#039;m sure if we could hard code the speed/duplex it would resolve some of the transfer rate issues everyone is getting on the HP ex47x boxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if this has been resolved or if there is a fix to get this working? I&#8217;ve been having the same problem and I&#8217;m sure if we could hard code the speed/duplex it would resolve some of the transfer rate issues everyone is getting on the HP ex47x boxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dav</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator>Dav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I have exactly the same LAN chip. I cannot choose 1000 full/half either. According the SiS&#039;s site it should support 1000mbps. The manufacturers of motherboards with SiS191 gigalan also state the same. Maybe we are cheated by them? It&#039;s actually a 10/100 fast ethernet chip but not a gigabit controller? I search in google for a while and seems no one with this SiS191 is able to get 1000mb/s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I have exactly the same LAN chip. I cannot choose 1000 full/half either. According the SiS&#8217;s site it should support 1000mbps. The manufacturers of motherboards with SiS191 gigalan also state the same. Maybe we are cheated by them? It&#8217;s actually a 10/100 fast ethernet chip but not a gigabit controller? I search in google for a while and seems no one with this SiS191 is able to get 1000mb/s.</p>
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		<title>By: Thaiger</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>Thaiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ian,
I do have the same problem, i also cannot se where to chose 1000/full, as you write !
Please tell me when you find a solution, thanks in advance :-)
Kind regards Thaiger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian,<br />
I do have the same problem, i also cannot se where to chose 1000/full, as you write !<br />
Please tell me when you find a solution, thanks in advance :-)<br />
Kind regards Thaiger</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anybody get the port to go into Gig status (1000/full)?  It will not let me hard code it and auto neg to a gig port only comes up as 100/full.  I&#039;m guessing because I cannot hard code it, it is not supported?  Do others see the same thing when they go to the adapter&#039;s &quot;Advanced&quot; tab then the &quot;Speed &amp; Duplex&quot; settings (no 1000/full)?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anybody get the port to go into Gig status (1000/full)?  It will not let me hard code it and auto neg to a gig port only comes up as 100/full.  I&#8217;m guessing because I cannot hard code it, it is not supported?  Do others see the same thing when they go to the adapter&#8217;s &#8220;Advanced&#8221; tab then the &#8220;Speed &amp; Duplex&#8221; settings (no 1000/full)?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: asd</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>asd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vista SP1 has some improvements for large file copies to older OS&#039;s (WHS is based on W2003, so it qualifies).  If you&#039;re suffering from slow file copy from a Vista client to WHS, you might want to consider updating to Vista SP1 instead of or in addition to rev&#039;ing the drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vista SP1 has some improvements for large file copies to older OS&#8217;s (WHS is based on W2003, so it qualifies).  If you&#8217;re suffering from slow file copy from a Vista client to WHS, you might want to consider updating to Vista SP1 instead of or in addition to rev&#8217;ing the drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I installed the newer SiS 191 drivers on my mediasmart server last night. I have to say I&#039;m very impressed. With the original in-box drivers, file transfers seem to start out ok (20-25MB/s), but over the course of a large transfer (multi-GB video files), it would slow down dramatically (to perhaps 8MB/s). With the new drivers, the file transfer maintained a consistent 30MB/s speed over my Gigabit network, which I would bet is probably maxing the sustained write speed of the drives in the server.

This was just a single file copy, and I&#039;ll do some more testing tonight, but this looks like a very promising improvement for an annoying problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I installed the newer SiS 191 drivers on my mediasmart server last night. I have to say I&#8217;m very impressed. With the original in-box drivers, file transfers seem to start out ok (20-25MB/s), but over the course of a large transfer (multi-GB video files), it would slow down dramatically (to perhaps 8MB/s). With the new drivers, the file transfer maintained a consistent 30MB/s speed over my Gigabit network, which I would bet is probably maxing the sustained write speed of the drives in the server.</p>
<p>This was just a single file copy, and I&#8217;ll do some more testing tonight, but this looks like a very promising improvement for an annoying problem.</p>
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		<title>By: johnb</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping this would eliminate the streaming video issues I have (every 60 secs approx it stutters, getting worse the longer the video).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping this would eliminate the streaming video issues I have (every 60 secs approx it stutters, getting worse the longer the video).</p>
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		<title>By: aaronwt</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-183</link>
		<dc:creator>aaronwt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently installed the new drivers. I still get around 230mbs to 250mbs trabsfer rates between my three Vista machines. But I do see where the burst speeds don&#039;t jump extremely high anymore. Whether that is good or bad I don&#039;t know. I&#039;d really like to get 300mbs to 350mbs transfer rates like I get when I transfer from VISTA machine to VISTA machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently installed the new drivers. I still get around 230mbs to 250mbs trabsfer rates between my three Vista machines. But I do see where the burst speeds don&#8217;t jump extremely high anymore. Whether that is good or bad I don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;d really like to get 300mbs to 350mbs transfer rates like I get when I transfer from VISTA machine to VISTA machine.</p>
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		<title>By: All4Fun</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>All4Fun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 19:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that I&#039;m not experiencing the placebo effect but I updated the driver and i felt it made my network throughput a lot more consistent instead of bouncing all over the place as it was doing before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that I&#8217;m not experiencing the placebo effect but I updated the driver and i felt it made my network throughput a lot more consistent instead of bouncing all over the place as it was doing before.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 01:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can access the entire underlying operating system on your Windows Home Server by using Remote Desktop.

1. Using Windows Vista, click the Start orb, then type: remote desktop connection &lt;enter&gt;
2. In the Computer input box, type the hostname of your server, click Connect
3. When presented with a login screen, login with user &quot;Administrator&quot; and whatever administrative password you set (same one used for the connector software)&lt;/enter&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can access the entire underlying operating system on your Windows Home Server by using Remote Desktop.</p>
<p>1. Using Windows Vista, click the Start orb, then type: remote desktop connection <enter><br />
2. In the Computer input box, type the hostname of your server, click Connect<br />
3. When presented with a login screen, login with user &#8220;Administrator&#8221; and whatever administrative password you set (same one used for the connector software)</enter></p>
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		<title>By: harry krause</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>harry krause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still trying to figure out how you used device manager to reach the SIS191...I don&#039;t see how one does this with VISTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still trying to figure out how you used device manager to reach the SIS191&#8230;I don&#8217;t see how one does this with VISTA.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bear,

I&#039;m sorry if I gave my fellow blogosphere pals the impression this article was about increasing speed, this isn&#039;t the case. I am happier about the increase in stability and the disappearing of my &quot;server-not-responding&quot; issues than the increases in speed.

Besides, I am not properly equipped to test speed. Being on a 100mbit line, I can only go so fast. I would like to repeat the test with gigabit-speed hardware in place...

I&#039;ll add a note to the article, thanks for the feedback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if I gave my fellow blogosphere pals the impression this article was about increasing speed, this isn&#8217;t the case. I am happier about the increase in stability and the disappearing of my &#8220;server-not-responding&#8221; issues than the increases in speed.</p>
<p>Besides, I am not properly equipped to test speed. Being on a 100mbit line, I can only go so fast. I would like to repeat the test with gigabit-speed hardware in place&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll add a note to the article, thanks for the feedback!</p>
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		<title>By: Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say, I was disappointed in the results you found.  I linked to this entry from an try in the Windows Home Server blog saying &quot;Do you have a HP MediaSmart Server and find that the network speed and throughput should not be as it should?&quot;.  I thought it would be great to actually get better file transfer performance and so here I came. 

Your results show a 2% improvement.  I guess one could say &quot;well, it&#039;s something&quot;, but really, it&#039;s probably not even noticeable.  Yes, that multi-gigabyte transfer will take a few seconds less.  Imagine, from 3 minutes down to a screaming 2 minutes 56 seconds!  Woot! 

That said, I suppose the fix has other benefits, including a more &#039;stable&#039; dataflow.  But, from a &quot;I might get more speed?  How!&quot; reaction, this was a big letdown.  :)

Thanks anyway,
bear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say, I was disappointed in the results you found.  I linked to this entry from an try in the Windows Home Server blog saying &#8220;Do you have a HP MediaSmart Server and find that the network speed and throughput should not be as it should?&#8221;.  I thought it would be great to actually get better file transfer performance and so here I came. </p>
<p>Your results show a 2% improvement.  I guess one could say &#8220;well, it&#8217;s something&#8221;, but really, it&#8217;s probably not even noticeable.  Yes, that multi-gigabyte transfer will take a few seconds less.  Imagine, from 3 minutes down to a screaming 2 minutes 56 seconds!  Woot! </p>
<p>That said, I suppose the fix has other benefits, including a more &#8217;stable&#8217; dataflow.  But, from a &#8220;I might get more speed?  How!&#8221; reaction, this was a big letdown.  :)</p>
<p>Thanks anyway,<br />
bear</p>
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		<title>By: harry krause</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>harry krause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would one of you fellows please provide simple, step by step instructions for updating the adapter on my Windows Home Server?

I have downloaded the file, but I am clueless about finding the server&#039;s Device Manager, or, as the original poster suggested, &quot;remoting it&quot; onto the server.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would one of you fellows please provide simple, step by step instructions for updating the adapter on my Windows Home Server?</p>
<p>I have downloaded the file, but I am clueless about finding the server&#8217;s Device Manager, or, as the original poster suggested, &#8220;remoting it&#8221; onto the server.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Thanks for pointing that out. The driver in the package is actually dated 03/03/08. I&#039;ll make a note of that in the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing that out. The driver in the package is actually dated 03/03/08. I&#8217;ll make a note of that in the post.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnBick</title>
		<link>http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/03/30/newer-drivers-are-better-go-figure/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnBick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I went looking I found this: 

SiS191 Gigabit LAN &amp; SiS190 LAN Driver
File Name 	sgl205.zip
Version 	v2.05
Release Date 	2008-03-11

Even newer than yours???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I went looking I found this: </p>
<p>SiS191 Gigabit LAN &amp; SiS190 LAN Driver<br />
File Name 	sgl205.zip<br />
Version 	v2.05<br />
Release Date 	2008-03-11</p>
<p>Even newer than yours???</p>
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		<title>By: HP MediaSmart Server - Updating the SiS191 Network Adapter Driver &#171; MS Windows Home Server</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP MediaSmart Server - Updating the SiS191 Network Adapter Driver &#171; MS Windows Home Server</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then updating the SiS191 network adapter in Device Manager to the latest driver version should cure your problem. For the details including before and after performance graphs, see Rafeels not affiliated within Windows blog. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Then updating the SiS191 network adapter in Device Manager to the latest driver version should cure your problem. For the details including before and after performance graphs, see Rafeels not affiliated within Windows blog. [...]</p>
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